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Title: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 21, 2011, 08:58:53 AM

Hey guys.... Looking to improve my car some and go from Turbo Buick engine to a 427 RHS block build.

Have Billy Briggs helping with engine 427 PTE98mm turbo
Rossler 4L80E trans w/lock up
MadMan helping with rear 9" with 3:25gear

I'll post pic's when I start mocking up the new package!

Looking to go into Small Block Power Adder class on Drag Week.

Pictures of car the way it was: 10.32@133 on pump gas/Drag Radials

(http://www.1320video.com/img/DW09Tuesday/DSC09750.sized.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/HotRod%20001.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on November 21, 2011, 01:48:23 PM
Those are some impressive numbers for a pump gas combination and a V6!

Are you running a drag radial on the car?

Can't wait to see what you can do with a turbo charged V8, especially knowing that your looking at Billy Briggs.  He builds some high HP motors.  I would image that mid 8's shouldn't be a problem.   

Hopefully you can make it to one of the Milan's Friday Night Events.  Even if you only run one event you will have a blast racing heads-up. 

Keep us posted on the build with some updates! 


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on November 22, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Hey Scott sounds great, We would love to see pictures and info on the build as it comes along. When you get it done mybe we can get to the track together some time.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 24, 2011, 10:58:56 AM
Love to get together! You guy's have one of the fastest coolest Stang's on the Planet even though I know your GN guy's Lol.

yea.. I just left with 6psi on the line with the foot brake on my old setup on 93 pump gas no alky or anything with 17-18psi total and 18deg of timing.
All on mostly used parts off turbobuick.com.

The engine is being built now.. RHS block.. Mast heads Hyd. roller cam. Rossler is building the trans
and I'm having MadMan out of LA build the rear and have him help me tweak it down there where it'll
hook (stock torque arm) deal.. he's been 7.40's@188 on his setup with drag radial.

I can put it all together but need help getting it to the ground.

The big single turbo is here.. now to find a good place to stuff it.

Place out of WA is going to help with the 6" air/air IC with 4" in/out

I'll post pic's when I get it started to mock up in the car.

Also have a 69 Camaro with very similar build with twins going together. Fun ;)

Have a great Thanksgiving guys!
Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 05, 2011, 05:36:41 AM

We should have the engines here for both the 69 Camaro and my 86. They are both very similar builds I think the 69 engine will be a few cubes bigger (larger bore block)
He's going with a pair of 67's
And I'm going to run this one single PT98. (Picture below)

January will be a real buizy month of fab here with both cars.
How's the Stang coming along????
Talk to you soon,
Scott~

Sitting next to a GN 70GTQ Turbo. 

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/PT98Four.jpg)



Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on December 06, 2011, 01:51:32 PM
Stang is coming along slowly. The 98 makes the Buick 70 look really small. Pictures when you get the motor. Makes us busy but the results are very satifying.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on December 06, 2011, 02:11:58 PM
The 70 looks like a stock turbo for a Buick.  At least that is the feeling you get after dealing with the large frame turbos, give it time you will have the same impression. 


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 15, 2011, 08:07:49 AM

I'm really out of my comfort zone here.... Much bigger engine than I've been using and much bigger turbo.

My normal budget includes used parts that I get on a heck of a deal and stuff!

A engine that has all new stuff in it and a good transmission is going to be a big change!

Just blessed with the help I'm getting from a good customer and friend.

Mock up starts the week between christmas and new year!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on December 15, 2011, 01:47:24 PM
You will be really out of your confort zone the first few times having that turbo on kill mod.  Especially on a marginal track were the tires are spining on the big end, trust me the butt pucker factor goes up with more horsepower.   


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 15, 2011, 02:07:46 PM

I got depends on my Christmas List! Lol...

Yea.. I totally have no idea how this is going to feel....

Thanks for giving me nightmares :)
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 02, 2012, 05:24:30 AM
I didn't have the parts to mock up the Camaro... so I worked on the Chevelle Wagon and put a pair of twins up front.... Going to use stock GN turbo's .. but I had a couple 70's laying around so pop'd them on to mock things up.... also put in Caddy LED tails... One done.. doing the other this week.

Hope to Make the Power Tour!

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/TwinTurbo1.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/TwinTurbo2.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/LEDTail.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on January 02, 2012, 07:24:56 AM
I take it the wagon is a mostly stock LS based motor?

Either way I'm there will be plenty of power to play with while cruising on the Power Tour.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on January 03, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
Looks like a fun poject.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 04, 2012, 06:02:55 AM

Right now it's a stock 4.8L that I got off craigslist for 175.00  It had a snapped #6 rod from a injector stiking open on start up.. had 40,000mi  Pushed a new rod on and two valves.. freshend up heads and back together... Cheaper than anything else could have gotten.

The Nice thing is once the work is done.. If I ever change the engine to a bigger LS.. everthing fits.

If I ever want to upgrade turbos.... everything fits being GN turbos... so All my work fab'n is done

one time.  Just got HHR door handles to put in all 4 doors. :)  Took me a month to find a yard that would

cut out the sheet metal around each door  and the guts for the handles! 

More pix to come soon :)
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 12, 2012, 05:21:29 AM

Two of the 4 doors in primer... with HHR door handle's

And the Twin Turbo IC mocked up...

One step closer to boost!

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/CountHHR.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/TwinturboIC1.jpg)



Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Kirt70camaro on January 12, 2012, 05:38:16 AM
Cool project should be fun to drive.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on October 08, 2012, 12:28:49 PM
Scott,


How is the Camaro build coming?  I haven't seen any pictures as of lately or heard anything more.

Jeff Jr.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 19, 2012, 05:28:35 AM

Well.. I have the one engine here for the 69 Camaro now.. and almost all the stuff to put it together but my engine is still up at Billy Brigg's place... Should have it in the next two weeks... (Just not sure which two weeks) Lol.
I have most everything else... Watching DragWeek this year was painfull. Really wanted to go :(

I'm about to go look though your updates on the Mustang!!!!
Take care guys,
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 30, 2012, 05:02:05 AM

Engine has arrived.... And Engine Plate. I've got one car that is being finished up here next week and I get to bring the Camaro over to start mounting and fabricating! I'm excited.
Hope you guy's are doing good!
~Scott

 (http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/427cid.jpg)



Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on November 30, 2012, 05:28:48 AM

Engine has arrived.... And Engine Plate. I've got one car that is being finished up here next week and I get to bring the Camaro over to start mounting and fabricating! I'm excited.
Hope you guy's are doing good!
~Scott

 (http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/427cid.jpg)




HI Scott, looks good. Their is a local guy around here that is getting out of racing. Has a nice partialy finished Trans Am and 454 LS with RHS aluminim block still being built by Curt Urbin.
   We stuggled with a couple of issues this year but got them sortted out by end of year.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 09, 2012, 06:29:23 AM

Is it NA or Turbo?  What engine Managment system is on it?

How's your car going?

Here is my old Buick engine down in a 87 Mustang now :)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Mustang1111.jpg)



Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on December 09, 2012, 07:30:08 AM

Is it NA or Turbo?  What engine Managment system is on it?

How's your car going?

Here is my old Buick engine down in a 87 Mustang now :)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Mustang1111.jpg)





The car ted was building was going to be a drag radial car (Trans Am) with the RHS aluminum 454CI with a 118 turbo and he was going with BS3. Don't know what all he has bought or sold, but he told me just pryer to that last post that he is not going to finish it. Don't know what all is for sale but if you are interested I can get his number.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 10, 2012, 12:43:37 PM

That sounds like a amazing setup....  Too bad he's not able to complete it.

I'm staying with my build for now but I'll see if anyone else is interested in that car.

Ask him how much and what all is included...

Thanks!
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on December 10, 2012, 07:03:23 PM

That sounds like a amazing setup....  Too bad he's not able to complete it.

I'm staying with my build for now but I'll see if anyone else is interested in that car.

Ask him how much and what all is included...

Thanks!
Scott~


Will do and let you Know.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on December 31, 2012, 06:55:28 AM
How is that motor fitting into your car?

Hopefully to see you at Milan for the Friday Night race...


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 31, 2012, 09:01:35 AM
The 69 Camaro is well on it's way to getting done by spring!!! :)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/69Camaro1.jpg)



(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/69Camaro2.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on December 31, 2012, 10:02:29 AM
Cool, I love the color....


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 31, 2012, 02:53:17 PM

This one get's that 442cid Billy Briggs RHS block Mast heads... Twin ball bearing 67GTQ's
Rossler 4L80E and the rear mini tub,4link 9" (all detroit speed stuff) and the front frame is
Detroit Speed Hydroform ... Should be lots of fun. ;)
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on December 31, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
Wow nice looking car, love them 79 Zs. Sounds neat in your description too.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 06, 2013, 05:23:36 AM
(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Mustang22.jpg)

 
Pipe work done... fluids all filled and started up... running :)

Final interior and inside wiring next.... Few little paint things to finish

and it'll be ready for minor tuning once the weather breaks!

Almost one more down... Waiting on Oil pan for the 69 Camaro... Morroso will not fit.. Mast has one

for the Detroit speed front frame.... HOPE it's here on monday!
Have a good weekend guys,
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on January 06, 2013, 06:41:14 AM
You are one busy guy.  How many cars are you typically juggling at one time?


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 11, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
Too many for my own good that's for sure... it's very tough to get it done between daily work and project work... Right now i'm trying to spend less and less time on the daily stuff and stay focused on
the project cars...... I have many goals for this coming year and I really want to meet them for once!

Here's the Bustang Running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0Fw6i2WkaKk


I had a brand new Line lock be bad.... it would allow pressure to pass to front wheels but then would not allow it to return to master cyl...... No wires hooked up!
Just got my new one yesterday and now it's all good.
I'm just about done with the interior stuff so it being 55degeees today I might just go out for a spin :)
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on January 11, 2013, 06:38:22 PM
Cool, we got the new exhaust made, the front fenders cut and mounted, new body metal welded in and are looking at the motor now.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 12, 2013, 05:22:56 AM

How much more would you have to do to yours to possibly go on Drag Week? I think you'd have a real good shot at setting all the records and beating Larson!
He's a great guy And super down to earth but your car is faster and could give him a real good run.
Just a thought!
~Scott

What was wrong with the old exhaust? I kinda liked how it was ran :)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on January 12, 2013, 08:34:50 AM
Larson and Lutz are both really nice people. The video that was posted was a track rental day that Jeff Lutz set up. He had his Pro Mod and his 57 Cheve their. We are not into driving these things on the street anymore. We never tryed to drive it other than around the block. I'am sure it is quite a challange to be able to put all those street miles on then run well to. We would like to run decent in NMCA. The car was originaly built for NMRA & NMCA. We were having trouble with the exhaust moving around on us. The first time we done them like that we did not have any trouble. Believe we used thicker tubing farther out from the turbos. Also wanted to make it so that to put the front end on we did not have to flex it around the tires. This time the lower fender stays on the car with the exhaust through it.

Did you take it for the first spin & how did it go? Sure looks nice and sounds good.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: 65rambler on January 12, 2013, 06:27:14 PM
That looks like a realy nice car


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 14, 2013, 08:36:40 AM

Ah.. Ok... I figured.. but thought it'd be awesome to have your car out for that!

The first drive was ok.... I think (chris) previous owner had a power booster that didn't fit so he just stuck the power mastercyl right on a adapter block to convert it to manual... well.. it doesn't have much
stopping power... made me a bit worried... I have two different style boosters coming today. Hopefully I have some good brakes by tomorrow.

With all the sound proofing we put inside it's nice and quiet inside there.... you can hear the DVD player just fine :)

I think I also have to choke up on the shifter rod down at the transmission. Adapting a Hurst shifter for a 87 mustang and stock 87 mustang cable to work correctly on a TH400 manual is fun.
I had it dialed in my Camaro.. that was pretty simple. I think if I move the pivit up a bit I'll be ok...

The 70GTQ sounds much differnt than that 76GTQ... I love the sound and it spools a bit easier.
Should be mostly wrapped up this week... I did bring my car over :)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 30, 2013, 05:59:39 AM

Most of the issues fixed with shifter and hopefully brakes this morning....

Today's picture with hood,shift light in cowl... paint work fixed. Not much left under hood to do.

All down to stopping and interior.

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Bustangfinish.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: 65rambler on January 30, 2013, 05:12:07 PM
Scott
That is looking real nice.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on February 07, 2013, 09:06:08 AM


Thanks..... :)

Got the brake situation figured out... the calipers were pushing brake fluid back up to the master cyl. I guess some mustang guy's use Lincoln mark 7 calipers/rotors for better brakes?  Anyway the rebuilt calipers were pushing the fluid back to the master so hard it'd shoot out of it when you let all the way up!

So I orderd a set of Strange front brake setups for it... Problem solved! Nice pedal... (already moved the pivot point up 1.4" to get the 6-1 ratio required for manual brakes to feel and work right.

Going to work on a couple other little paint things I'd like to do and final wire up t-brake and a few other minimal things.... It'll head over to the owners house till spring when I can street tune it and get ready for Drag Week.
Mine's Next :)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on February 07, 2013, 09:41:24 AM


Thanks..... :)

Got the brake situation figured out... the calipers were pushing brake fluid back up to the master cyl. I guess some mustang guy's use Lincoln mark 7 calipers/rotors for better brakes?  Anyway the rebuilt calipers were pushing the fluid back to the master so hard it'd shoot out of it when you let all the way up!

So I orderd a set of Strange front brake setups for it... Problem solved! Nice pedal... (already moved the pivot point up 1.4" to get the 6-1 ratio required for manual brakes to feel and work right.

Going to work on a couple other little paint things I'd like to do and final wire up t-brake and a few other minimal things.... It'll head over to the owners house till spring when I can street tune it and get ready for Drag Week.
Mine's Next :)

Tell the owner as soon as you get it tuned everone is ready for demonstation rides.;D Looks real nice Scott.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on February 20, 2013, 05:17:33 AM

Need to spray the mouldings but drove it around and setup a base tune on monday as it was 55 out.. now it's 19 and snowing...
Took it over to the owners house till spring... Feels pretty good :)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Bustang00.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Bustang 001.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on July 07, 2013, 07:21:41 AM

Finally got some time to get 427 and 4L80E intsalled....

Not going to be able to afford the rear end stuff this year... it'll have to wait.
Like to still make drag week but we are 19&20 on waiting list... It filled up in 8hrs.
Didn't even know regestraion was open :(

Here's a few pic's.

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/427LSX1.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Camaro98mock.jpg)





Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on July 08, 2013, 06:41:10 AM
 Sounds like that race is really catching on. Looks like fun ;D.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on July 08, 2013, 03:04:47 PM
I was beginning to wonder how things were going with this project.  Sounds like they are progressing with a couple of small road bumps, which is normal for any project. 

Keep us posted. 


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on August 05, 2013, 07:11:17 AM


Well after many days pondering how I wanted the fender to look where the turbo draws air into it

This is what I came up with.

I'm down to wiring,Fuel feed,regulator,final stuff for chute,

Two radiator lines.... alternator bracket fab and a little more sheet metal work and paint in engine bay.

Driveshaft is done... Leaving the rear suspension alone this year.. need to get it out and see what bugs we have and address those.
Next year I'll do the Fab9 and Madman rear suspension.

It'll progress very quickly now... at the tail end of it finally!
~Scott
(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Camaro Fender inlet.jpg)



(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Camaro Fender inlet.jpg)



Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on August 05, 2013, 10:19:46 AM
Sounds like you may get some runs out of it this season. ;D


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on August 06, 2013, 04:24:26 AM

I hope I can make Drag Week still.... It'll be on low boost and timing just to go out and be a part of the event again.. I really enjoy it.
The drivers side fender will get the same hole but with the point going towards the back
That will be for the exhaust dump if I choose to open it.

I'm 19th on the wait list for Drag Week since it only took 8hrs to fill up this year and It wasn't announced
the date and time it would open for on-line registration. :(
I hope they change that next year.
More pic's soon.
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on August 08, 2013, 05:47:57 AM

Just tube done... All engine bay needs cleaned up/painted smoothed ect.

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/427LSXInstall.jpg)

Fender just sitting on body... 98mm sitting in there,
Will have a buch more to seal it up ect... stainless screen for street driving

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/FenderHole1.jpg)

16th century Fender torture device for one of my guys here at the shop lol.


(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Jason In Fender.jpg)




Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: 65rambler on August 08, 2013, 08:20:49 AM
Looks nice good work


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on August 08, 2013, 09:08:04 AM
It fits nicely in there.

Is that an air to water or air to air intercooler up front?


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on August 10, 2013, 12:29:38 PM
It's actually a Shearer Fabrication 4th Gen Air/Air IC... That uses 2 3" Garette Cores with 4" Inlet/Outlet

It supports 1500hp+... Found a guy who didn't end up using it and got the entire setup for 800.00 shipped

to me. It's 1600.00 on Sherrer's site... 

It didn't take much to fit in my 3'd gen so I was very happy.

I just don't feel that a Liquid/Air IC is viable for the street. Track... For sure.. but

as much street driving as I do the air/air is my best friend and i've had great IAT's with the Buick.

I doubt I'll need much more than 10-12psi for now which it should be very effecient at. :)

Thanks!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on August 12, 2013, 08:33:04 AM
Sounds like it will work real good. Even with just 12# on it the first time you hit it you will be smiles from ear to ear. ;D


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on August 14, 2013, 03:06:38 AM

Got the Holley Dominator system in route with all harness coils ect I need... Tires are on the way too... Now fuel line to regulator and final engine bay stuff.

Hope to fire in the next 2weeks if it keeps up at this pace... :)

Thanks for the encouragement!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on September 20, 2013, 05:03:08 AM

Well... Got all my stuff done... with one day left till Drag Week... My Number got called up on the wait list with 2.5weeks till Drag Week actually started...
Worked from 4am till midnight for that 2.5weeks... Got down to Friday (had to leave Saturday)
Car was running but somthing was not quite right.... Found #8 Exhaust rocker not moving...
Pushrod was installed wrong and sitting on block holding valve open... Did a leak down to make sure it wasn't bent... (it wasn't.. whew) so started it again and still wasn't acting right.
Did a compression test and had 30psi.... check another cyl... 34psi...
Humm.. what's up here... Backed off the rockers just a little and 180psi... (Pushrods too long)

Well... I had to be down in bowling green the next day for registration .. and at that point I was pretty much done... no test time... zero drive time... Not much compresson ect...

So The Bustang was ready to go.... and the owner let me take it to Drag Week... It did great!

Got the Quickest Six again and had a great week with it.... It was a very HOT week with temps in the mid 90's at all the tracks we went to. It ended up being about 1200mi in 4 days!
Here are some pics!
Best Time was 10.6@128mph on pump gas and Drag Radials


(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/BustangDragweek1.jpg)




(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/BustangDW2.jpg)







Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on September 20, 2013, 05:49:30 AM
Was wondering if you made it. Sounds like it turned out well, Mustang ran good. Now you have the time to sort out the LS. Let us know when you get it running write.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on September 20, 2013, 06:00:47 AM
Walk around Video from the other day over at my buddy's...

Trying to get the driveabilty down now... later some boost vids.
~Scott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sdzuz2XC43I

Boost Drive By with the Bustang:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1FB5QeDbL0


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on September 20, 2013, 02:26:31 PM
Nice job Scott!!!


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: 65rambler on September 21, 2013, 04:12:32 PM
Scott
You said you went with holley dominator system. Could you say why you went with holley over fast or bs?
Thanks
Kevin


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on September 24, 2013, 06:41:20 AM

Well... XFI has no transmission control... (I have a 4L80E) Needed that.

BigStuff does have trans control but I don't think the boost controller was very good or they didn't have it.

Since I do drag week I would like to have one box for everything. This way I'm not chasing problems between two or three systems that

are either not logged or working together. If there is a problem I need to find it and fast to get back on with the trip... I was hoping the

Dominator system could provide that..... Other than getting use to a new system it's been very user friendly so far and the self learning

fuel maps are helpful.... Logging is a bit weird but I'm really not use to it at all yet.

Going up to Billy Briggs on Thursday to final sort out Valve issues and get a 10lb tune on it whith the Chassis dyno.

I'd have to say this Rossler 4L80E is absolutely killer. LOVE it. The Pro-Torque Converter is very nice.

I'll let you know how Thursday go's!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 03, 2013, 03:40:50 AM
Hey... more news....

Went up to Billy's and did a few pulls with 93 pump gas and 14deg timing and it's on the wastegate spring at 10.8psi (Loggs around 11psi)

We pulled to 6200rpm for now with a 11.5afr was making 780rwhp on the Chassis Dyno there at Billy's place.

That was on a Thursday.... On Saturday I drove it down to Brenspeed for the Dyno Shootout/Carshow/Customer appreciation day... There were 44 cars that went on the dyno...
I was the last one to go on and spun the tires when hitting boost but still made 730rwhp and
other than Mike Roy who was there for show I had the Highest RWHP car there.

I'll now take it down to the LSX Shootout on the weekend of Oct 13th and run the "True Street" Class.
It's a 50mi drive and 3 back to back passes... Best avarage wins.

I've not had it to the track yet so we'll see if the Chassis can handle what I have now and go from there.
Turn it up small amounts at a time till I get a good pump gas tune and then
put in the race fuel and sneak up slowly on a chassis/engine/boost tune that works for the car.
I'd rather make less power and have a car that go's down the track every time than somthing that go's on the bumper or blows the tires off.
Youv'e been through it... I'm just starting Lol..
Talk to you soon,
Scott~
(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/CamaroatBrenspeed.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 03, 2013, 04:16:13 AM
(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/LSXsideview.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/LSX rearview.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Brenspeedhpboard.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: 65rambler on October 04, 2013, 11:15:04 PM
Good job scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on October 05, 2013, 04:49:06 PM
Cool, we just ended getting some work done with Billy. 

Tell you the truth he maybe our new go to guy for engine work!


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 08, 2013, 03:51:16 AM


Billy is a great guy... been building engines a long time and has the highest powered LS on the planet right now with Tom Kemph.  (Silver/Black firebird)
Other than the pushrod issue the 427LS I have has been great.

He's got our temperment so I think you guy's would get along real good.

A couple more days (Friday) and I'll be down at Indy for the LSX Shootout.

Time to find out if the chassis can put it down to the ground.?

I had to send in the Aeromotive Fuel pump for a rebuild (Pro series pump)
It dropped from 51psi at 4200rpm down to 35psi by 6200rpm.
The holley system compensated 36% fuel very quickly and never let the AFR's go above 12.0AFR.
Pretty cool!
Have a great weekend guys!
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 17, 2013, 04:17:23 AM

Thanks for coming over and finding me at the Indy event!  Great to catch up and actually see the Mustang!

Awesome Job on the car... Pictures just are not enough!  Thanks for the advice as this is my first time really having some parts that can make some decent power when setup next year...

I found out when starting to drive home my MAP sensor connection was bad.... The Eye on the fuel table was all the way at bottom and just following RPM... not Load...
Thought the vacuume line came off but it was the actual connection at the MAP sensor... Looked back at the log and load was ALL over the place from about 5000rpm in 2nd gear till part way though 3'd where it totally dropped off and fell to the bottom of the RPM scale and shut it down.
Still went 145.56mph... which is encouraging...

Got the MAP sensor plugged back in about a mile down the road from the track and drove the rest of the way home no issues.
I think I used between 11-12gallons going home with about 160mi that puts me in the 14ish mpg?
I was targeting 14.8-15.2AFR at cruse at around 1700rpm (65-70mph)

Hope we can be at the same events more next year!!!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on October 18, 2013, 08:41:43 AM
Yea Scott.

It was great to see you again, granted it has been a long time since we all have been able to get together.  Hopefully next time I will be able to check out the Camaro. 

I'm sure if you plan on running the True Street class at the NMCA event, we will definately run into each other mor often!


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 20, 2013, 09:44:43 AM

Yep I sure do... Hopefully I'll get the car dialed in slowly and see what the chassis can handle.

I hope to drive the car to all the events and home. (Goal) Do Drag Week again as well.

If it all go's good with the regular ET Street's I'd like to find a set of used rims like the one's I have and try

out the Drag Radials again and see where the limit is with them. I had good luck and love the way the car

drove with them but as you know it's all or nothing with them.

Great seeing you and can't wait till the first event!!!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 12, 2013, 04:21:18 AM
Drove the car up to Martin MI on Saturday for the last Test&Tune.... about a 160mi round trip..

I think I got around 17mpg... Pretty close to that maby a bit more...

Anyhow... Left the tune up alone... Still at 11-12psi on 93pump gas

Left soft with a 1.7x 60' went 9.84@147mph first full pass still letting it shift at 6200

Second pass 1.7x 60' went 9.80@147mph... Weight is 3580 with me in it.

Hope to hook up the boost controller this winter and setup my launch stuff in the Holley system.

Do a couple cosmetic things.... In the spring work on my 60' times and get the chassis working.

Then I can turn the boost up slowly and keep working on chassis stuff as I go along.

Hope the winter is short!!!
~Scott
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lowa8bsTjc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lowa8bsTjc)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Sideview2.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on November 12, 2013, 09:25:32 AM
That is good, I really like the gas milage.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 25, 2013, 05:16:08 AM

Found a place up Just into WI to do the Fab9 and stock style suspension.... Just going to let him set his stuff up... driving the car up there I think on Thursday.

Fab9,Spool,CM Torque arm,mount,Anti-roll bar, adjustable lower control arms, double adjustable shocks,springs in stock location with adjusters... That's about it.

When it returns Time for the boost control, 3 step setup and finish the engine bay for a bit cleaner look.

And survive the winter... I think the first NMCA True Street is in FL in april...?

http://www.nmcadigital.com/2013/11/14/2014-schedule-annouced/


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on November 25, 2013, 09:54:18 AM
I think we will be trying to hit the second race in Georgia this year for NMCA.  Schedule is still up in the air, but there is a good chance. 

Typically all classes run record ET's at this race so I have to assume the air and track are nicer for this race.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on November 26, 2013, 05:02:14 AM
Is that down in Valdasta GA?  I've been by there going to FL before and heard it's a great track!

I'm excited for the season and getting to be at the track with you guy's some!!!!

Winter seems so long  :(
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on December 29, 2013, 05:30:20 AM
Rear end housing before powder coat... 40spline spool/gun drilled axels.
All back to a stock style suspension now. Should allow me to run in some
classes where I can be very competitive.

Hope your having a good winter guys,
Scott~!

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Fab9%20complete.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on December 30, 2013, 08:44:08 AM
Wow looks like somebody done some really nice work.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on January 20, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
Stock location suspension is done.... Anti roll bar installed... Bring it back this coming weekend and do my list of stuff to do!  Planning on doing the Street car shootout in Oklahoma in April!
~Scott

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/86Camaro427(2).jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on January 21, 2014, 08:24:36 PM
Sounds like fun, good luck. Let us know how you do. ;D


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on February 01, 2014, 03:00:55 AM

Few of the rear setup now... 

If only winter would go away Lol.

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Fab9doneclose.jpg)

(http://www.michaelrenz.com/upload/files/Fab9Done.jpg)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Saywhen on February 01, 2014, 02:44:26 PM
Looks too nice to be tucked underneath the car...


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on March 07, 2014, 06:44:17 AM

Bunch of stuff to do now that I have the car back... Had to re-do the exhaust since most of the stuff under the car now is different... (almost done with that now...

Cleaning up and painting under the car and orgainizing lines ect.

Installing scatter shield.
Going through interior... Taking out some weight as it's about 3600lbs with me in it...  No I'm not 600lbs either lol..

Going to put on a 1/2 lb air tank inside the car... and a small compressor for use on the Wastegate... and so I can air my tires back up after racing and go back to street.
Should work out decent I've talked to a few others with this setup and it seems to work pretty good!

Hope you guys survived the winter,
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on April 07, 2014, 10:13:21 AM

Took it on a cruse to a burger place with a group of other locals.... Over by lake Michigan.

Was 117mi round trip... Used 6gal put me at about 19.5mpg ... Not too shabby.

Working on my list still but it's getting smaller.
First event is end of April at Martin MI

Hope to be in the quick 32 it's the Import VS Domestic shoot out.
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on April 08, 2014, 02:45:26 AM
Import VS Domestic shoot out, is this the one at the end of the year in Maryland?


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on April 15, 2014, 03:24:25 AM
2014 SPECIAL EVENTS

 All tickets include free pit passes and free parking unless stated otherwise.
 


 IMPORT VS DOMESTIC SHOWDOWN ~ April 26-27, Saturday & Sunday

 This is an Inaugural event this year, featuring local Domestic racers taking on local and national Import racers.  Classes will include Quick 16 East vs. West, Quick 32 Import vs. Domestic, Bracket I, Bracket II, and the FWD Battle.  Off the track events include car show, special guest appearance by Geronimo Racing and live music by Orquesta Tradicion.  Gates open at 9am each day.  Adult tickets are $20 for Saturday and $25 for Sunday or $40 for a two day pass, children 12 & under are FREE.

   Import Domestic

Right there at US131 Dragway Martin MI. :)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 15, 2014, 06:03:16 AM

Hey guys... Looked for you last weekend down at the NMRA/NMCA event at Indy... Were you there????

I went down for the True Street part again.... Due to time constraints they only let us do 2 passes but went 8.65 and 8.69 Both at 165mph

I had Traction issues on Drag Week that kept the car in the 9's... but I think I'm on the way to sorting that out now...

Hope to continue on the traction deal and then turn the car up some... Still set up pretty soft.

Hope you guy's had a great year!
Scott


http://blogs.hotrod.com/scott-klepingers-1988-mustang-with-buick-turbo-power-113827.html

Write up for this year... and look back at last year with the Bustang


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on October 15, 2014, 07:56:25 AM

No we were not their, hurt the motor weekend before. We are done for this year. Wow sound like you have a handle on it.





Hey guys... Looked for you last weekend down at the NMRA/NMCA event at Indy... Were you there????

I went down for the True Street part again.... Due to time constraints they only let us do 2 passes but went 8.65 and 8.69 Both at 165mph

I had Traction issues on Drag Week that kept the car in the 9's... but I think I'm on the way to sorting that out now...

Hope to continue on the traction deal and then turn the car up some... Still set up pretty soft.

Hope you guy's had a great year!
Scott


http://blogs.hotrod.com/scott-klepingers-1988-mustang-with-buick-turbo-power-113827.html

Write up for this year... and look back at last year with the Bustang


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 15, 2014, 09:12:51 AM

Oh... Man sorry to hear that... . Hope it's nothing serious...!  Was looking forward to talking with you guys!

I'm still a long way from having the 60' times where they need to be... I was able to get down the track Saturday by

launching at a lower RPM/Boost and ramping in the boost slowly...  Once it came on it stuck and it went through all the gears with little drama... so that was good.

I never did feel 1st gear at all on Drag Week... Kept knocking the tires off... Most of it due to old tires with 7000mi and track time...

The passes and stuff are here for those Facebook users.
https://www.facebook.com/UR50SLO

Hope to see you in the Spring!
~Scott


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 17, 2014, 04:50:56 AM
http://youtu.be/jjs2VRdsNlA


From the Stands video... :)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on October 17, 2014, 05:14:48 AM
Looks good, you will be in the 7.?? in no time.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 18, 2014, 04:19:00 AM

I sure think that won't be a problem.... I have to add to the cage this winter which will take the Cert. down to 7.49... then re-licence NHRA

Both Cage and Me are only good to 8.50 as of now.....

I'm advancing the cam 4deg as well... Bring a bit more power in down low and help driveability. 

Putting in a 6psi spring in the gate and try to leave at 4000rpm with lower boost so it does not kill the tires and ramp it in real quick .. or as quick as it can handle it.

Have a name of a guy to send my shocks to for re-valving...  And several other chassis things I can think of at the moment.

I'm at 20-21psi total which ramps in and 15deg of timing in boost... It seems to make decent power there but added 2deg and picked up 5mph... so that tells me

there is some more power with timing...  I'll take it a few deg at a time and sneak up on it watching the plugs every pass...

Plenty to maul over this winter for sure and improve on... :)

Thanks!
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on October 19, 2014, 07:41:19 AM
Sounds like next year will be a blast for you guys.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on March 01, 2015, 08:26:30 AM

Did some updating to the Bustang....

Changed out the TH400 to a 4L80E with Rossler brake

Changed the rear gear from a 2:73 to a 3:27

Removed the old journal bearing 70mm and installed a billet wheel ball bearing 71mm

And sold the old "Speed Pro" yep.. that's how old it was... bank to bank system and installed a Holley Dominator!

She's up and running ... Need some good weather and I'll be able to dial it all in.

The Holley already runs much better on the car just in the little time I've had to move and tune it in the shop.

It idles so smooth it sounds like it's stock!   Shooting for 9.80's/9.9's on 93 pump gas and 30mpg.

Hope you guy's are ready for spring!  This winter has been a long cold one again!
Talk to yousoon,
Scott

This was a transbrake test ... hits the 3400rpm rev limit real quick and 10psi.... :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PgfbhXUpbQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PgfbhXUpbQ)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on March 02, 2015, 04:30:53 AM
Cool looking good, you do anything to yours this winter.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on March 02, 2015, 06:02:05 AM
I parked mine after the LSX/True Street down in Indy in October..... I've been gathering the parts I need to re-vamp the things on my list....
CamTiming... and cam cover change so it's in full sequential.
Shock re-valving.
Rocker arm Trunion upgrade
Take inside completly apart.. re-wire everything.. Remove external heater box and fab internal box (It will still work)
Trim off the fat around the car...
Add to the cage for 7.50 cert.
Get 7.50 Lic.
Wheels for the front/Rear (Wider in rear)
Fix a few paint/body related items... And test... Get the 60's down to 1.2-1.3 MPH at 180.

Kind of my goals for the year... I should be in the hunt on drag week if I get it to be consistant at 7.50-7.80 range.

Much past that the chassis is really done.... Have to start with another shell for a 6.0cert setup.... Not sure if I'll go that far...
That requires a lot more money...  And this thing is scarry enough for me now Lol.
Stay Warm!
Scott~


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 04, 2016, 06:41:32 AM
Another year pretty much in the books for my 3rd Gen...

Did not do much at the start of the year.... Installed the repaired 4L80E trans from Rossler and drove the car a bit... seemed good.

Drove it up to the "Car Craft Midnight Drags" which was 187miles one way... (Old cam)  Qualified 3rd place out of over 100 cars. Ran 8.6x @165mph
I think I ended up 4th over all.

Drove to the NMCA event at Norwalk which was about 200mi one way... Ended up 4th again.

Drove to Hot Rod Drag Week 300Miles... (New Camshaft) No test time.... Got 4 more miles per gallon!  I'm at 25mpg pulling a trailer :)

First day the new cam made a lot more power down low... best 60' best 1/8mi mph and ET the car has ever done (Even after pulling rpm to launch down around 3600 @ 6psi!
Accidently left it in 2nd gear on that pass hit rev limiter at 7500 let off... still went 8.8@126  when I was 134 in the 1/8th..

Turned boost down... Next pass spun... Then was out of time.

I thought I had a handle on where it needed to be so made a guess at Summit (Norwalk) and went 8.57@157 Letting out.

In my class you can't run any faster than 8.50... So there were about 7 cars right at the 8.5x

Drove to Martin Ran another 8.5x... Drove to indy Went 8.603  Final track back at National Trail went two 8.5x

Got 4th place by .003 Lol.... My year for 4ths I guess.

Hope you guys had a good year.... Sure miss talking to you guys and seeing the Mustang!

Set you soon,
Scott~
(http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=6155&d=1475591479)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on October 07, 2016, 02:47:13 AM
Congrats, sounds like you are having a lot of fun with it. We are going to hit one more race this year, PDRA in Virginia.


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: UR50SLO on October 12, 2016, 05:42:18 AM

Cool!  Good Luck!!!   Let me know how it go's!

I went to a heads up Arm Drop style race down at Muncie Indiana... went two back to back 8.20's@167mph  1.28 60'

That new camshaft is really helping!

Have a good race guys!
~Scott

https://youtu.be/EkoPLRFZsEU (https://youtu.be/EkoPLRFZsEU)


Title: Re: 86 Camaro LSX Build:
Post by: Jeff Harrington on October 13, 2016, 09:07:27 AM
Cool, looks like the suspension is working well. Were is the difference in the cams, more lift.